tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post1228708386067009470..comments2023-09-12T07:14:57.041-07:00Comments on [GBG] Atheist News: How Endogenous Retroviruses Prove EvolutionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger119125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-75241041188134279162013-01-17T12:06:12.391-08:002013-01-17T12:06:12.391-08:00"The odds always seem to be against me, even ..."The odds always seem to be against me, even when the numbers are in my favor. Strange."<br /><br />The problem with your comparison here is that you are looking at two completely different scales of probability. If the odds of having abiogenesis occur are 1 in 500 billion; by the sheer vastness of the cosmos probability dictates that there are likely to be many hundreds of examples of this taking place. Conversely, If the odds of many genomes mutating identically between two specific, yet separate unrelated species are again 1 in 500 billion; the likely hood of this being true are drastically unlikely, if not completely impossible.<br /><br />Especially when coupled with as much evidence as Evolution and/or abiogenesis have going for them, deliberate design explaining this phenomenon is laughably unlikely. There is no way any rational, informed, thinking being should accept deliberate design as the best explanation of how life came to the form it is currently on this planet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-28347088042404575352011-04-18T21:38:12.810-07:002011-04-18T21:38:12.810-07:00humans are all fools they cant belive the truth th...humans are all fools they cant belive the truth they always refuse what is the truth i pity them allAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-80405063372853665022011-02-12T09:08:31.925-08:002011-02-12T09:08:31.925-08:00The scientists discover evidence and formulate the...The scientists discover evidence and formulate theories to fit the evidence. When a theory makes a religious leader feel threatened, the religious leader tries to outlaw the theory. If that does not work, the religious leader tries to invent a new theory to fit religious doctrine, and then tries to make the facts fit the religious theory. We the people need to recognize this and realize that religion is a business and a wannabe government. Religion has accomplished a lot of good in the form of moral education and providing comfort, sustenance, and counseling to those in need. It is good to believe in something bigger than ones self other than materialism and people. Religion has accomplished this. Now religion must take a step back and allow science to do its job and explain how the world really works.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-16935517873038999782010-02-11T07:15:51.933-08:002010-02-11T07:15:51.933-08:00"This probably needs to be said again "t..."This probably needs to be said again "there are over 200,000 Human ERV's which can be found in chimps at orthologous positions". We are not talking about ONE virus here. It's said that up to 8% of the human genome is made of viral DNA."<br /><br />so your saying that ur stupidity comes from ur dad being a monkeyUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16848576361448646262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-23013196856037700392009-12-05T00:52:15.897-08:002009-12-05T00:52:15.897-08:00People should be required to pass an IQ test befor...People should be required to pass an IQ test before being allowed to post comments on this page. It's amazing how many people claim something to be fact just because they believe it is. It takes more than just believing something for it to be a fact. It requires proof, and speculation is not proof. Atheism is the lack of a belief, which requires no proof. Atheists don't have to prove anything. However creationism is a belief, yet no one can provide any peer-reviewed scientific evidence in support of it. Amazing isn't it? It is odd how often creationists use the word "fact" without understanding the definition of the word. The lack of ability of creationists to understand scientific proof puzzles me. I do hope that natural selection will run it's course on the ignorant. Sadly I think it's unlikely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-76804282169506508702009-10-23T02:51:20.044-07:002009-10-23T02:51:20.044-07:00Someone made a comment that evolution is an impres...Someone made a comment that evolution is an impressive creation of god. (theistic evolution) But evolution is impressive in the light of the fact that it is not created and is not guided by an intelligent being. The resulting living organisms of evo are impressive but for an all-powerful intelligent being evolution would in fact be one of the most inefficient and immoral ways of bringing about humans.Kubanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-36581196722085781482009-10-16T14:59:02.785-07:002009-10-16T14:59:02.785-07:00"nothing cant create life"
we dont beli..."nothing cant create life"<br /><br />we dont believe this, we believe that there was ALWAYS something.<br /><br />the first law of entropy states that matter can neither be created or destroyed; thus, there has always been something, and god does not fit into the history of the universe.<br /><br />you're saying that if you remove a letter from the dna sequence (which is wrong, it is comprised of nucleotides, not 'letters', showing your lack of knowledge) then you die; this is completely irrelevant and does not prove your theory or disprove mine.<br /><br />religion is fantastic, it guides the stupid to living righteous lives, but the creationists are stopping society from progressing by saying that you cannot prove evolution.<br /><br />evolution has been conclusively proven again and again, and you shun the evidence, refering to your bible, which CAN NOT BE PROVEN, because it is a fictional work.<br /><br />Your theories are flawed and you are immersed in them due to your fundamental stupidity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-39338865213584769642009-09-30T16:01:14.609-07:002009-09-30T16:01:14.609-07:00Ok. Everyone. I was once an atheist. But then i lo...Ok. Everyone. I was once an atheist. But then i looked at facts. Lets see. DNA. The information in DNA is a specific code which makes us what we are. If the code even loses a letter or more we would most likely die. Second. Nonlife cant create life. Thats a FACT. Next if the first cell really was made( chances are literally 1 to 10to the 42000 power. Fact. Next. The Bible hasnt been mistranslated. The dead sea scrolls dated thousands of years ago & they didnt change anything. The bible is exactly the same. Next. If the cell made life. Then it started to "evolve". It couldnt survive. It wouldnt have formed eyes yet( which if parts are missing it doesnt work at all). Look at the fossil evidence. Theres not one of transforming forms of life. Now im a 14 yr old male & the theory of evolution is impossible. No matter what. DNA CANNOT be altered. It can kill the animal. Also. DNA is a specific code of trillions of organized codes. How can DNA evolve into the perfect code. Its impossible. Soon the theory will be taken from textbooks. Lets quit pretending we came from monkeys. Its usually only because we dont want rules. Well. U can disobey God but that doesnt change the fact hes real. This has gone on long enough. Look it up. I advise everyone to read "Darwin's demise. Why evolution cant take the heat". It completely 100% disproves Evolution. & no. It doesnt use the bible( which isnt mistranslated ). It uses facts. After u read it. I guarentee u that u wont believe in evolution. Read it go ahead. Because there are facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-45828580753278900812009-09-26T08:27:16.952-07:002009-09-26T08:27:16.952-07:00The main problem I have is that soooooooooo many p...The main problem I have is that soooooooooo many people believe that Evolution is a "fact". It is a theoretical interpretation of a set of facts. The facts are separate from the interpretation. They can easily be interpreted as many theorys, as they have.<br /><br />I personally don't believe in Evolution as stated in the Science books today but rather adaptation. Even Darwin in his tree of life has several points at the bottom indicating that there was a prototype or aboriginal version as he calls it for each of the different plants and animals. These originals adapted to the different environments that they were exposed to so that there are multitudes of variations of each now. That fits the evidence as well as, if not better than, the idea that all evolved from one bacteria. But it can't be proven because there are only two ways that can happen:<br /><br />1. You can reporduce the opservation<br />2. You have a reliable person observe it and document it<br /><br />Neither of these exist for either position unless you believe the Bible and that God instructed man to write down what He did. According to Darwins Origin of Species and that there was an aboriginal version of each plant and animal the following passage, Genesis 1:24 makes sense:<br /><br />And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind."dmichaelmatneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-77450420089137857252009-07-05T22:53:15.807-07:002009-07-05T22:53:15.807-07:00This may show strong likely hood of ancestory with...This may show strong likely hood of ancestory with a chimp, but not with a fish etc. This also does not disprove that there is intelligence involved in evolution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-72857344464670545032009-06-03T09:16:09.269-07:002009-06-03T09:16:09.269-07:00Example: The ancestor of the human and Chimpanzee ...Example: The ancestor of the human and Chimpanzee lives in the jungle. It doesn't really look like either. It's not particularly good at living in trees but it has found itself living among a lot of them. It evolves to become better at living in trees because tree life allows it to be free from predation. Anything that increases the chance for reproduction is evolutionary pressure and predation is a big one.<br /><br />At about the time these animals are evolving to be tree dwellers, a group leaves and lives on the plains. It encounters predation and other evolutionary pressure. It's really hot, for instance, so those with less hair are more likely to survive and reproduce. It also gets attacked by other large animals so other mutations lead to advantages. Evolution is faster here because getting food generally means eating other animals. In the jungle it is possible to live from fruits and leaves. So, on the plains competition for food is much greater so evolutionary pressure is much higher, for all animals involved.<br /><br />Humans took a different evolutionary path because our surrounding was different. Once humans evolved to a certain point of evolutionary success, once we achieved a certain level of intelligence, which is our most powerful evolutionary trait, we stopped evolving quickly and we spread out throughout the world.<br /><br />I think most Christians could understand Evolution if they would at least try to embrace it instead of only looking at it from the point of view of disproving it or pointing out perceived flaws.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-21480920565164311472009-06-03T08:57:04.745-07:002009-06-03T08:57:04.745-07:00"if i'm realted to a chimp then why didn&..."if i'm realted to a chimp then why didn't the chimp evolve into a human to"<br /><br />It would make more sense if you tried to actually understand evolution with an open mind and do some reading. A major component of evolution is geographic separation. Another component is environment. Some environments necessitate more adaptations for survival than other environments. I'll give an example in the next post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-26840858548554893382009-04-27T14:20:00.000-07:002009-04-27T14:20:00.000-07:00you say about the similarity of dna, ok every prog...you say about the similarity of dna, ok every program on my pc is obout the same, becouse it's made by 0 and 1. or maybe the result is very different?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-86213806090274137462009-04-15T10:32:00.000-07:002009-04-15T10:32:00.000-07:00you are all blind, if i'm realted to a chimp then ...you are all blind, if i'm realted to a chimp then why didn't the chimp evovle into a human to? In the bible alll humans share two common ancestors, Eve and Adam, they might have been different than humans today but they weren't monkeys that evolved into humans over time or there would be no monkeys because they evolved into humans. And why don't we see eolving monkies today? If i was relatd to a monkey and over the generations it evolved into a human and anoither one stayed a monkey then why did one monkey i guess down grade and one upgrade? monkeys and humans are different.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-73425665897074134892008-12-01T21:19:00.000-08:002008-12-01T21:19:00.000-08:00Why we moved to sexual reproduction as opposed to ...Why we moved to sexual reproduction as opposed to asexual reproduction? That's an easy question, you must not have asked too many people.<BR/><BR/>It's the same reason you can't bang your sister for 30 generations and not have a fucked up genome. If a cell carrying very complex genetic coding asexually reproduces for 30 generations, the code gets messed up. With sexual reproduction, you have to haploid cells, creation one diploid cell, which creates genetic variance. The new cell is happy and healthy with an intact genome. No mass unfavorable mutations.<BR/><BR/>That's why nature would obviously favor sexual reproduction over asexual reproduction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-39078255350894430592008-11-11T16:24:00.000-08:002008-11-11T16:24:00.000-08:00I noticed someone talking about entropy (I’m using...I noticed someone talking about entropy (I’m using the form of this word that describes the fact that the world cannot become more ordered). We do not live in an isolated universe. On the contrary, there are many sources our universe gets its power from. For example, an explosion like the one proposed in the big bang theory. This would provide power, but the rest of the law states that you need some way to harness this power. A nuclear chain reaction does nothing but destroy unless we are able to harness it. On top of that, it also releases more entropy (I’m now using this word as the measure of disorder of a system) into the surrounding area. Finally, where did this power, comment, small exploding condensed ball of matter come from? Whatever evolution theory you believe in, thank goodness, none of them are claiming matter came from nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-16265709133933768772008-10-22T12:50:00.000-07:002008-10-22T12:50:00.000-07:00Ali, Re-read what you just wrote but replace "jesu...Ali, Re-read what you just wrote but replace "jesus" with allah, thor, vishnu or any other deity you can think of and you will get an idea of why your argument is far from convincing and why your empty threat of a fictional punishment for an imaginary crime doesn't frighten a disbeliever in the least.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, this post is about evolution and the evidence supporting it. if you want to preach would you mind finding a street corner and standing on a box yelling like every other mental case has to.<BR/><BR/>any further off topc rantings will be deleted.[ Matt ]https://www.blogger.com/profile/07718525431511823203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-51933579200365648952008-10-22T09:10:00.000-07:002008-10-22T09:10:00.000-07:00"'Now will i go to hell:)'Can't go to a place does..."'Now will i go to hell:)'<BR/><BR/>Can't go to a place doesn't exist. Let's not even ask."<BR/><BR/>Haha! This had me laughing. Ya'll are both going to hell if you believe in evolution! Jesus Christ died on the cross to save you from hell because he loves you. And yet you still reject him!! You stiff-necked people! If you read this you HAVE to feel some conviction in your gut even if you don't want to admit. If so, and you realize that maybe I do know what I'm talking about...sorta and you don't want to burn for eternit in hell then all you have to do is<BR/><BR/>A. Accept Christ as your savior<BR/>B. Believe in Him with all your heart<BR/>C. Confess you sins, not to people but privately to God. <BR/><BR/>One more thing, since God created you he knows EVERYTHING about you, he can read your thougts and he knows the exact amount of hairs on your head (kinda creepy huh)and the most scariest thing is, when you die you will put in front of the judgment seat of Christ and He will judge you based on your actions. If you have heard about Him and still accepted Darwin (who really wasn't even as steadfast in his own theory as you are) then, have fun with Darwin in hell! I'll be in heaven singing "Amazing Grace" and chillin in my mansion with Isaac Newton and Galileo!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-60684594195014606342008-10-22T08:42:00.000-07:002008-10-22T08:42:00.000-07:00"God was not mentioned once in this article, why m..."God was not mentioned once in this article, why must everything be about God, god******!!"<BR/>I think someone has some conviction on his heartAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-54743247289333592182008-10-22T08:38:00.000-07:002008-10-22T08:38:00.000-07:00"Every day when you look in the mirror, you look t..."Every day when you look in the mirror, you look the same as you did yesterday. Yet if you take a photograph of when you were 2 years old and compare it to when you were 16, then 40 then 75 you'll think you're lookng at 4 different people. Evolution is similar, species change slightly over time because of selection pressures." Okay right there, you are trying to PROVE evolution is true, but yet you just proved it wrong. If every thing in this world is improving (as you evolutionists HAVE to believe to believe in evolution) then how do explain us getting older and dying? We are not improving, when we look at a picture from when we are two and compare it to a recent picture, in the younger picture we look young innocent and have no blimish, in the recent picture we see wrinkles, grey hair (or if you're not old, you will be). Face it you are going to die and when you come close to your death you start to fall apart because you ARE NOT IMPROVING! Science geeks, if the second law of thermodynamics(heat and other natural processes tend to only go one way and that is toward less usable energy and greater disorder) is true then that proves it wrong right there. Also if the law of inertia is true (for non-science geeks it states: the tendency of matter to stay at rest if at rest, or to continue moving at a constant velocity if in motion)how do you stay firm with the belief that life created itself? If it wasn't there, then how did it come out of rest to move at a constant velocity? Or take Newton's first law of motion that states that the velocity of an object is not changed unless it is acted upon by an outside force. If this is true than one electron could create itself and then connect itself to a neutron and evolve. <BR/>Another thing if you look at a watch and see all the little cogs and springs it is ludicrous to say that this just happened, and even even more stupid to say that if you put the clock on the side of the road and leave it there for "millions and millions" of years then it will turn into a frog. Humans are far more ccomplex then a complicated watch and yet you say WE just HAPPENED? I don't think so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-74775744198769701262008-10-22T07:46:00.000-07:002008-10-22T07:46:00.000-07:00"People that believe in Christianity already show ..."People that believe in Christianity already show their own ignorance. Evolution is a FACT."<BR/>Prove it to me then. Give me facts, because I am ready to prove them all wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-85943830188771217972008-10-22T07:38:00.000-07:002008-10-22T07:38:00.000-07:00OK for all you people that want to prove evolution...OK for all you people that want to prove evolution in this comment thread, answer me this, if every bit of matter in this universe started from electrons and neutrons that turned into molecules, cells, animals and eventually humans, where did the first substances come from?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-68449510577182474732008-09-28T12:03:00.000-07:002008-09-28T12:03:00.000-07:00"Doesnt this mean that chimpanzees and humans all ..."Doesnt this mean that chimpanzees and humans all descended from one and the same individual that got bitten in his sperm cell by 100.000 retro viruses, so we can all share that stuff?"<BR/><BR/>Not one individual. Many individuals in the line of common descent. We accumulate mutations over generations.Stehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11000319634543531197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-20449463802920614962008-09-28T11:30:00.000-07:002008-09-28T11:30:00.000-07:00"So the first "hairless" monkey rea..."So the first "hairless" monkey really had to mate with another hairless one or as close as it."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Wow, the lack of logic & scientific understanding is collosal. This is a classic example of the "tyranny of the discontinuous mind".<BR/><BR/>Every day when you look in the mirror, you look the same as you did yesterday. Yet if you take a photograph of when you were 2 years old and compare it to when you were 16, then 40 then 75 you'll think you're lookng at 4 different people. Evolution is similar, species change slightly over time because of selection pressures.<BR/><BR/>Species only diverge when not in contact for a period of time. We see animals today in each stage of speciation. 1) Cows & buffalo CAN mate and produce fertile offspring, 2) Horses & donkeys CAN mate but produce STERILE offspring, 3) Red squirrels & grey squirrels CANNOT mate because they're too far diverged.Stehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11000319634543531197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-73772747516536646152008-09-24T13:17:00.000-07:002008-09-24T13:17:00.000-07:00Excellent explanation, it's just a shame a lot...Excellent explanation, it's just a shame a lot of the people on here cannot quite grasp it & do not feel that this (let alone the colossal amount of other evidence; novel nylonase activity, deviations from Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium, chromosomal homology, genetic homology, vestigial structures, protein homology, the fossil record, genetic markers) is conclusive evidence for evolution.<BR/>Science WILL prevail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com