tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post1916939821207133282..comments2023-09-12T07:14:57.041-07:00Comments on [GBG] Atheist News: How Chimp Chromosome #13 Proves EvolutionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-19931944331538036152013-03-20T18:06:01.954-07:002013-03-20T18:06:01.954-07:00Why do you say that?Why do you say that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-76512802087370462972010-12-09T21:09:42.252-08:002010-12-09T21:09:42.252-08:00The bible is there to merely teach a lesson. Not f...The bible is there to merely teach a lesson. Not for historical reference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-27003066761436806552009-02-02T13:57:00.000-08:002009-02-02T13:57:00.000-08:00YALL LIKE COCKGO GODYALL LIKE COCK<BR/><BR/>GO GODAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-52506952463374591942008-11-24T14:44:00.000-08:002008-11-24T14:44:00.000-08:00Religion and science are not related. At all. Now ...Religion and science are not related. At all. Now everyone shut the f*** up and stop commenting.<BR/><BR/>Either you can believe evolution is real or God created everything, whatever, just don't deny others here.<BR/><BR/>And if your a religious nut, stay off of Atheist-based websites. I don't like you guys as much as you hate us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-71188114276166834322008-04-26T18:22:00.000-07:002008-04-26T18:22:00.000-07:00Reading all the comments it is sad all the people ...Reading all the comments it is sad all the people people who attack the bible. <BR/><BR/>If I was an unbeliever I would simply ignore the article and not attack people who don't support evolution as fact. I find it sad that people put forth ignorant comments about the bible in order to support evolution. Look, if someone wants to believe something, I can agree or just ignore it, ingoring it shows how confident you are in your belief/position, but to attack it to me makes me think that those people are doing it just to may be stir trouble, or have some kind of emptiness in their life that they need to attack others (as most the comments are personal, when they become personal you've lost the argument anyway).<BR/><BR/>Would it not be better to discuss the article with love and respect and understanding so we can all learn?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04675965075012843872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-91495985321505402272008-04-06T10:39:00.000-07:002008-04-06T10:39:00.000-07:00I have always said that just because God created T...I have always said that just because God created The World, Adam and Eve etc. The Bible does not say how he created them. Maybe God created that chromosome that way for a reason. If that is the only difference between ape and humans maybe that is why he created it that way. Have you ever studied the Bible? Maybe if you spent more time in it, instead of trying to disprove it you might learn much more and you will certainly gain more. What went on in your childhood to turn you so against christianity?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-47458154913801303422008-03-30T11:31:00.000-07:002008-03-30T11:31:00.000-07:00WOW I know I'm coming in on this a little late, ho...WOW I know I'm coming in on this a little late, however after reading all the comments there is one thing that's missing.<BR/>BOTH evolutionists and Christians need Faith in their beliefs. Evolution and Creation BOTH lack the 100% guarantee that it's the "REAL" thing! Both require a level of FAITH. Faith in science or Faith in God. <BR/>When looking at science we can come to realize that over the centuries science has been WRONG on many occasions. (Thousands of examples)<BR/>I'm a 52 year old white male with a college education and when I attended elementary school science, they taught me that matter had THREE forms. Solid, liquid and gas. WOW!! We now know of 6 states, solid, liquid, gas, plasma, Bose-Einstein Condensates which was not discovered until 1995 and the sixth "Fermionic Condensates", which was CREATED by man. Science not so reliable.<BR/><BR/>At the same time Society taught me that segregation was OK. How wrong Society was!! <BR/><BR/>So science is GREAT I love it, however I'm NOT going to put my Faith in something that has been wrong thousands of times (That I know of) The more science evolves the more we find out how wrong we really have been.<BR/>Society has been just as wrong as science and I'm definetly NOT going to put my faith in Society!<BR/> <BR/>However as a Christian my FAITH in God can evolve into something that I have discoverd. A personal relationship with Him (GOD). Yes HE is as real to me as the air I breathe even though I can't see it (it's there). He's as real to me as the immensness of the universe (even though I can't measure it) He's as real to me as the solids, liquid, gas, plasma, Bose-Einstein Condensates and the Fermionic Condensates that EXIST!<BR/> <BR/>He wakes me in the morning and I love spending the day talking with Him and hanging out. <BR/><BR/>AND to everyone else out there who does not have this....<BR/>You'll never discover the seventh state of matter unless you're DILIGENTLY searching for it, YES it's hard work, just ask any of the scientists that have made discoveries. Laughed at, humiliated, rejected and more... <BR/>AND<BR/>You will never discover what you're not SERIOUSLY searching for.<BR/>Seek and you shall find it, knock and it shall be opened unto you.<BR/>Youm MUST seek in order to find just ask Cristopher Columbus how easy it was to find. Knock and it shall be opened, just ask Martin Luther King how easy the doors opened. Yeah right!<BR/><BR/>Ignorance IS bliss!<BR/><BR/>Thank you Holy SpiritAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-78953540458809265382008-03-08T01:34:00.000-08:002008-03-08T01:34:00.000-08:00this guy is great i sorta understood what he ment ...this guy is great i sorta understood what he ment even though all the hard words he used, some people say this and god should be seperated, but what i believe is there was once a man called jesus but all the things he done and said what he was.. , i am not sure, but this proves that all the stuff they said in the bible about how god made men and universie , i think its just pure wrong and kinda makes the bible out as lying so its possbile they could lie about everything else in the book. And to think we are alone in this unverise is pure wrong, the unverise is huge and to think we're alone... we're not that special.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-44366884523567444272008-03-01T04:29:00.000-08:002008-03-01T04:29:00.000-08:00they wouldn't have to accept anything. we are vast...they wouldn't have to accept anything. we are vastly more intelligent, a tool maker, we made weapons to protect ourselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-33190270215061970942008-02-29T22:56:00.000-08:002008-02-29T22:56:00.000-08:00lets say this eveloution happened. now spawned fr...lets say this eveloution happened. now spawned from apes. man comes. a weaker hairless crying sticking out like a sore thumb species, living in the wild. If they accepted this new species. they would have to change their lives to this weaker species. children of apes hang on to their parents when preditors attack to get away. a baby cannot do these things. we would perish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-85029905211831370892007-10-23T21:58:00.000-07:002007-10-23T21:58:00.000-07:00I just have to say this: Some people's complete mi...I just have to say this: Some people's complete misunderstanding of genetics is disturbing to me. If you don't understand it, get a genetics book and stop sounding like an idiot and stop saying the speaker is wrong. Everything he is saying sounds valid to me, and it is solid fact that we have 46 chromosomes! So don't say that that makes no sense! You can see the friggin' pairs in a microscope! uggg! And by the way, you can believe in a god or gods and believe in evolution as well. They do not have to be separate. I was raised Episcopal and I was not taught to take the bible literally. Intelligent people who have paid attention in their genetics, biology, and anthropology classes know and believe that evolution happened. There is evidence of it not only in our genetics but via fossils as well.megan.banninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12436260198769257536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-48466185457027169362007-10-23T20:45:00.000-07:002007-10-23T20:45:00.000-07:00The important thing to remember is that its not ac...The important thing to remember is that its not actually important at all whether there is a god or not. Any entity with absolute power and knowledge over all of existence would, understanding everything utterly, knowing exactly what will happen at every point and place possible. Such a creature would see the entirety of the universe all at once, it would know exactly what would happen in its creation before it even created it. It would make any action on the part of this creature pointless from its point of view. With every action and reaction known in advance all throughout eternity, and with it's absolute power over what is, it would be unable to react to this existence, only act on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-48824907294130623282007-10-21T12:55:00.000-07:002007-10-21T12:55:00.000-07:00But you disbelieve in the biblical account of crea...But you disbelieve in the biblical account of creation Dave? That's good, because that's what the article was disproving. Glad we got that sorted.[ Matt ]https://www.blogger.com/profile/07718525431511823203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-87193162374421785102007-10-21T12:17:00.000-07:002007-10-21T12:17:00.000-07:00Okay, well in that case, I now believe God created...Okay, well in that case, I now believe God created chimps. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-39047852806435924412007-10-21T11:16:00.000-07:002007-10-21T11:16:00.000-07:00Hi, i'm Houk. There's lot of chimps with 23 pairs....Hi, i'm Houk. There's lot of chimps with 23 pairs. They cant understand science but they have lot of imagination, that's why they prefer believing in "god". some of these chimps posted messages in this website. scientists should study them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-57713709911344213992007-10-21T02:37:00.000-07:002007-10-21T02:37:00.000-07:00This may help in understanding where Jesus and Chr...This may help in understanding where Jesus and Christianity came from. Everyone should watch it wether you believe it or not. <BR/>http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/<BR/>EnjoyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-54551640207430345842007-10-20T20:26:00.000-07:002007-10-20T20:26:00.000-07:00TO RYANN (A few posts above this one):Simply stati...TO RYANN (A few posts above this one):<BR/><BR/>Simply stating that "God did it" when citing the cause of the Big Bang, Evolution, and Earth's formation serves no explanatory value whatsoever. I am confident that you like so many others in the world who are not necessarily dogmatic actually believe that "God did it", however this belief is nothing more than an unqualified opinion regarding the nature of causation as it refers to established scientific facts. Evolution is a powerful scientific theory, based on facts, that has been validated for almost 150 years through intense scientific investigation in areas such as archeology, biology, chemistry, geology, paleontology and numerous other fields. You might as well say, "Purple little flying elephants did it and that's my opinion." Explanatory value is derived by explaining something that is simple by providing more complicated evidence, not the other way around. <BR/><BR/>Furthermore, I strongly feel as I posted earlier in this comment section, that many people are uneducated in the very areas that they seek to provide opinions on. It is this fact that belies the reason for the plethora of unreasoned comments. Simply look at the comments regarding people not understanding the basic math involved in the video. 24 minus 1 equals 23. 23 times two equals 46. I learned this in the first grade. And you expect me to explain evolutionary theory to you. Idiocracy is here now, <I>GOD</I> save us!<BR/><BR/>-Steve<BR/>www.thenothingthatis.blogspot.comStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18246916663004754179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-18845603566484523972007-10-20T19:05:00.000-07:002007-10-20T19:05:00.000-07:00>Why are 95% of Christians fucking retarded?Becaus...>Why are 95% of Christians fucking retarded?<BR/><BR/>Because the other 5% Are brain dead...<BR/><BR/>The Better question is why do we let primitives run the human race?<BR/><BR/>These Xians are the same people in olden days that used to shit thenself and shake their fists at the sky when it rain or thundered....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-46268037045918339012007-10-20T16:30:00.000-07:002007-10-20T16:30:00.000-07:00Why are 95% of Christians fucking retarded?Why are 95% of Christians fucking retarded?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-6891169784241056492007-10-20T15:05:00.000-07:002007-10-20T15:05:00.000-07:00Let me say something first. I play football and on...Let me say something first. I play football and one day during practice I heard one of my team mates talking about God and the Bible and everything with some one that was moderately religious who was also on the team. Now, the first person I mentioned, I'll call him Person A, said this: "I believe and everything, but I'm not religious. I'm not religious at all. But I still believe that there is a God." Now, I'm also like this. I'm not very religious at all. But I still believe that there is a God or some Supreme Being. I wanted to get this out of the way before I said anything else. Now, I think that God caused everything. He caused the Big Bang. He did it. He caused the earth to form and EVOLVE over time. Then God put micro organisms onto the Earth. Which HE, as in GOD, decided to have them EVOLVE into more complex organisms. So I believe that it was Gods will to make things evolve. I think God makes things evolve. God, I think, is the reason why we, humans, are here. It's because GOD DECIDED to make us EVOLVE from APES, MONKEY'S, and so on. This is just what I think and believe. You don't have to agree with me at all. Please correct me if what I said doesn't make sense or if I have some grammar type errors. Or feel free to leave myself a comment or message on my blogg at http://comments-howchimpchromosome13.blogspot.com/. (It's not a very good one.)Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00026740423064350556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-12768610193600621022007-10-20T14:49:00.000-07:002007-10-20T14:49:00.000-07:00You people are awefull at math. What happened? D...You people are awefull at math. What happened? Did you drop out of 2nd grade? The apes have 24 pairs, which means 48 chroms, therefore if we have 23 pairs we would have 46. Its simple multiplication. If one of the 24 pairs of the apes chroms fused, then that would be adding 1 to 1 to make 1. Thats how fusion works. So 24 pairs turns into 23 pairs which is 48 total chroms and 46 total chroms respectivly. Do your math before posting please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-77952006028831586112007-10-20T06:05:00.000-07:002007-10-20T06:05:00.000-07:00You may recall in the video he talks about the coo...You may recall in the video he talks about the cool little "markers" in the chromosomes. Who created the markers a form of intelligent measure that you're using to make your case?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-48636125227456415432007-10-20T01:36:00.000-07:002007-10-20T01:36:00.000-07:00To educate on debate ettiquette, its quite impolit...To educate on debate ettiquette, its quite impolite to deface and slander the opposing side of the debate, to further your own cause.<BR/>That turns a debate, into an argument, and arguments rarely if ever have any educational value.<BR/><BR/>Now, for my point I am wanting to add. To those who keep saying the bible has been translated several times, and to those who believe in evolution created by god, as an autonomus function, I challenge you to think that God had an active roll in overseeing both of these.<BR/><BR/>My personal belief of the whole creationism and evolutionism debate, similar to many previous posters, is that God used Evolution, _to an extent_, to creat humanity. But God was involved in it, guidiing it like a potter guides the clay from a rough form into a pot or whatever other creation.<BR/><BR/>This belief also applies to the bible.<BR/>Many of original texts from the disciples are still accessable, and the disciples themselves were not 'barely literate' men 'bending it to their own benefit'. Several of these men, through out their travels and life before Christ, were well learned. Several knew more than one language. Also, when gifted with the Holy Spirit, they recieved divine insight, which allowed them to work miracles, and recieve the word of god QUITE clearly, as God intended it to be recieved. Just take the biblical story of the Apostles who spoke to a crowd, and men of different languages all understood the same sermon given. That is the power of God.<BR/><BR/>Now, you can point your fingers at me, flame me, and say "Its nothing but faith, and it's all made up", but my friends, if you read the bible, you'll know that the Word of God states that God is neither provable, nor disprovable, as that would deny us as individuals 'freedom of choice', for if we could PROVE God, we'd all be christians, no?<BR/><BR/>I base my beliefs off of the Protestant belief system, so my views differ a lot from Catholics and Pentacostal 'Christians'. But I call myself Protestant warily, as each person interprets the bible uniquely to their own, as most of it is figurative.<BR/><BR/>The true beauty of the bible is its relevance to anyone in any situation in life, based off of the interpretational value.<BR/><BR/>I got a bit sidetracked, lol, but I do believe I made my point as clearly as I could this late in the evening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-21398485502857603592007-10-20T00:41:00.000-07:002007-10-20T00:41:00.000-07:00Someone PLEASE answer this. If this video is true ...Someone PLEASE answer this. If this video is true shouldn't we have 47 chromosomes?<BR/><BR/>He said that chimps have 48 chromosomes and we humans have 46. He said for us to have 46 one of the pairs would have had to disappear. Instead he says that one of the pair just fused. However, if you have 48 and take two to make one, that leaves you with 47, NOT 46. Where is the missing chromosome?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6109581212220604045.post-65992101200115302382007-10-20T00:07:00.000-07:002007-10-20T00:07:00.000-07:00To: StraightShootinComputin Angels like Humans hav...To: StraightShootinComputin <BR/><BR/>Angels like Humans have free-will. no one is forced to follow or love God because God makes them (what's the point of people being forced into following, that isn't real love) Just as humans can choose to follow God or not, lucifer and 1/3 of the angels chose to rebel and oppose God. that's where the devil comes from. <BR/><BR/>God is all powerful, but can God make a mountain so large he cannot move it? <BR/><BR/>to answer your question to the best of my knowledge. God is capable of evil, but he is not evil, the devil is evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com